obviously, the debt ceiling is important. you will see some real coalition around the boehner real. you know, hopefully that is something that is sealable and relevant to the white house. it used to be pay-as-you-go. connell: times have changed. dylan glenn, thanks a lot. dagen: is lawmakers screw up or interest rates going up? peter hayes oversees more than $100 billion in assets. good of you to be here. they mess up on raising the debt ceiling, do you think interest rates will shoot up or what can we expect in terms of that market? >> expect volatility. the bottom line is you will see volatility. the longer we go and connell talked about some of the issues in washington, how you get there, missing payments and so forth. it will get messy. they seem to react only when their backs are against the wall. the longer they go, the higher probability the u.s. misses its triple rating. oddly enough, prices rose and rates fell. that will be the real teaser. dagen: that is the upside down crazy world that we live in. you miss behave and we have longer-term interest rates. how long can that c